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Post by scararm on Jan 28, 2006 0:56:53 GMT -5
This is a repost, as it was posted in the wrong forum. Hello! everyone. I am looking for information on my ggg grandmother her name was Viewer on her probate papers she was born 1840 and died 1902. I looked up her indian name in my dakota dictionary and it was Wanyaka, which means to see or perceive. She married an Alexander Larrabee - Larvie- Garvie, these are different spellings for his name. Married in ceremony about 1865 It didnt say where. She had five children Elizabeth Lafferty, Louise Arpan,George Larrabee Richard Larrabee,William Larrabee. My father passed away when i was five and I grew up with my mother's family. And on the pedigree chart I got from the BIA Office, it said her mother was Greens and her Father was Sitting Bear- I tried to lookup these names in my dakota dictionary but there are too many ways to say 'Sitting'. I dont know which one to use and Greens for translation(s).  |
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Post by scararm on Jan 30, 2006 17:00:04 GMT -5
Hello
I found a paper in one of my Grandpa's old photo album and it had a list of english names and and Indian name and a date at the top of the list 4-29-1868 This I belive to be a list of Indians who names were changed to English names on this date in 1868
Can ka je pa-Dupree or Dupris this translated means some thing to do with wood and making it flat by pounding on it .
Narcell - wasicu Catka- wasicu- means the keel or hual of a boat and catka means left or left hand. His name was martel -narcell - norcell these are different spelling of his name. I believe he was linked to the ferryman at redwood who helped the friendly indians and the white captives they resucued make it across the river to saftey he haul them risking his life by going back again and again till he lost his life. His story is in the books through dakota eyes and the sioux uprising of 1862 by kenneth Carley.
Laplante- pahmi
LaBeau-Oglesa
Traversie-istawanjela
Claymore-napesica
Alexander Larvie-Larrabee-U upau han ska or U upan hau ska
sorry if i spelled that one wrong his u and n kinda look the same.
Labeau- oglesa - red shirt
Traversie- istawanjela-one eye
Claymore- napesica-bad hand
more translations Hope this is helpful to some one out there
"Scar Arm"
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Post by dgberg on Jan 30, 2006 18:47:24 GMT -5
hi scararm, are there alot of english translations or just certain families? i think alot of us would be interested in this list. if you could post more names we would be gratefull. thanx.
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Post by scararm on Jan 30, 2006 19:19:16 GMT -5
Hello Iam so sorry i wish there were alot more names but these are the only ones listed. Does anyone out there know who were the indians living on Fairbaults land after some were shipped out some stayed behind and alot of these are on the 1886-89 census. There is suspose to an article in the news paper cause the towns people were complaining about the indians that were still there and this alexander Fairbalt had to account for them. But no luck finding the article.  |
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Post by peacekeeper on Jan 30, 2006 23:22:21 GMT -5
i believe that the missionary or priest at the time had a list and it is the minnesota historical society. i think it was riggs, but cannot guarantee that.
jackie
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 31, 2006 0:20:54 GMT -5
I read a copy of the article and it did not mention all the names of the people that were being sheltered by Mr. Faribault.
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 31, 2006 1:03:59 GMT -5
Re. Viewer, I found her at Age 60 on the Cheyenne River Reservation in Dewey County, so. Dakota. The census is the 1900 US Census for Cheyenne Roiver reservation, Dewey ,S.D.
she is listed as a widow, born Nov. 1839. she had 8 children, but only 4 were still living. she and her parents were all born in South Dakota.
Living with her was her granddaughter,Emma born March, 1892, Age 8. she and her parents were also born in So. Dakota.
No luck with the name Sitting Bear, or Greens.ancestry wants a first name as well for these two surnames, it seems.
No luck with larrabee either.
I would suggest you check with the Cheyenee Indian reservation BIA office and see if youcan get Viewer's Heirship papers, since you are a relative.
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 31, 2006 1:06:31 GMT -5
Re. the article re. Faribaults sheltewring the Indian friendlies, try, the Minn. State Hist. Society. We wereable to get a copyof the Newspaper article,but it cost @ 8 dollars.
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Post by scararm on Jan 31, 2006 5:51:03 GMT -5
Hello Thank you for the information I do have probate papers but the copies are so bad where they list any other brothers and sister she had about 7 and the first name I can read the name dog at the begining but not the rest of the name and the last name on the list ends with Eagle. I called my uncle to see if he could get me a better copy and he got it today so hes going to mail it to me. But on the heirship part about the land she got land from a Supra. My on my moms side of the family her Grandma was Josephine Medicine Man her mother was tasinatopa she got her name because of her marriages I belive the story goes. She married to four different men from different clans or bands and by doing so she brought unity and strenght to her people. Now I read this story in one of Mrs Eastmans books from stories she was told to by Old Eve granny weston. Most of the stories are true about the happening among the mdewakantons around 1830 and the 1850 up to the imprisonment at Fort Snelling I recall alot of the names in her stories from reading and they match up with the Chiefs and their children when i go to Ancestry. So I what i found out so far is that tasinatopawin had different names Good Day women- Elizbeth Hakewaste-supretuwakanwin-and she was married to James Red Wing wabasha son of Walking Buffalo. I found she married Hakewaste and a George Pay pay after they were shipped to Crow Creek and davenport. In what order she was married to all these men and who her where her kids I only know of the Josephine now I see she had children with hakewaste a girl named anna hakewaste but i read on the board that James Red Wing was married to a hapan and a tasinatopawin and he had a son Joseph who married a Anna Hakewaste so that confused me at first but after reading how the marriage changed so much back then and how the man just had to say go iam no longer responsibe for you leave so he could make room for a new wife (Indian Divorce) and how the wives could be bought or stolen from another just makes our search harder. And the Government changes there names on us on top of the confusion we are already feeling. Any way my theroy on my family is that we were all separated but found each other and married amongst each other not knowing that we were related back then cause of all the name changes. I belive my ggg grandmother on my dads side of the family and my ggg grandmother on my moms side were sisters or half sister cause there are starting to be some familar names popping up. Josephine Medicine Man had that name cause it was the name of one of her stepfathers. But she came to cheyenne river with the Grey Ealge family and i just read that Grey Eagle was a medicine man. Dose this make sense to anyone sorry got to long winded there but i was venting my confusion  |
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